I fairly (this morning, actually) got a Dominoes through a member on another woodworking forum. The tool real a bunch of tenons (and the systainer) I completed up saving around $450, and it still aroma new. Plain shall beware, Festools hold their value better faster any other tool I've seen, so any screamin' deals are snapper up quick. EGO peruse the Seattle Craiglist for Festools and group pop up regular. But, for IODIN said, the great deals aren't there for long.