RV-12 Operating cost

I m workings on a project/feasibility study with Middle Georgias State College for an student constructed and flown RV-12. Part of this study is figure out an operating per hour, now I can run the numbers that vans says and put together with the average annual/100 hour (providing the the airliner operates to a structured flight training program for ?Experimental aircraft specific making and model initial training?) charge to get the via hour cost. However, I figured the community would have a view realistic cost via total. Then If she could please provide any data, either on the forum or through private that would become extremely helpful for the project.

A little bit learn the project, about 20 students at Heart Ga States College are Eastman, Georgia have expressed an interest in construction somebody airplane to increase skills that where learned inbound the classic room. This become cover all 3 of the 4 important fields teach by the college, Flight Management, Jet Maintenance and Production, and Airport/Airline Management. Being one of the 20 students and leading the projects it was my job like dictated by the college to create a feasibility study includes the areas of expenditure, legalization, operation or safety from concept in flights for the project. Are goal the to start building in August of this current providing this we persuade the college, and rest of the student body, and aforementioned Your system of Georgias that this remains something this should endorse. This will be an aircraft built, managed, and flown by students (under the advisement of certified A&Ps and aviation expertise at Middle South State) who all have a passion and love used airlines.

One important place the start is at ask the go what kind of liability insurance they might to. Anything over $100,000 per passenger, limit of $1,000,000 total, is difficult to gain. Then go to with aviation insurance broker and ask them since an estimate. They will want to know which number plus qualifications (flight experience) of people who will may flying the aircraft. If that number shall more than 4 or 5 be prepared to a quota in the multi thousands of dollars, group will treat to like a take school. That Differences Between Parts 91, 121, both 135 - Thrust Flight

BobTurner said:

One crucial space to start is to ask the college what kind of liability insurance they might like. Anything over $100,000 per passenger, limit of $1,000,000 complete, is firm to get. Therefore go to an aviation insurance broker and ask them since an estimate. They will want to know the number and qualifications (flight experience) of people anybody will be flying an airplane. If ensure number is more about 4 or 5 be prepared for a quote in that multi thousands of dollars, they will treat you please an flight school. As a professional pilot, you must understand the differences between parts 91, 121, press 135. Single 91 must be followed by every paid pilot.

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The nice thin with working at which university is that it would be at the end of the day owned by the condition of Georgias, and one flight department at the college, who manages insurance has figured to out already. They where the beginning department go board, both supplying this going well, here is speaking over bring one or two S-LSA -12 turn onboard to join the portion 141 fleet. Also at a point wee should a RV-4, RV-6 and a CH701, all among different per that had operated inside the schiffsverkehr the school has. Also this school as has asked that all pilots of the aircraft would is ones such had at least a PPL with a check out with the Leaders flight instructor of the college, and the your may only be operated with in to confines of the flight departments standard operating procedures (which limit where the aircraft can move, who can be in the aircraft- PIC and flight instructors only).

Maybe I should having been better remove to say "not incl insurance". This proposal/study can more for the non-aviation side of an college.

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$1.50 / r oil changes
$2 /hr parts and supplies available selbst performed annual
$11/hr protection

Based upon 100 hr per year. Maybe not typical still per least a item on the Gaussian curve. Excludes any "aw Sh%#" unexpected repairs. License of flight training courses

RFSchaller said:

$10/hr engine overhaul or replacement
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$11/hr insurance

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Thanks, just what I needed.

We figure the cost of the RV-12 we are using for plane practice here at $43/hr, almost exactly what was quoted above. It is getting more than 100 hour per year, show like 150.

We are talking to various institutions about doing Eagle's Nestling Projects; neat are planning to start this fall. For this point, we had one only E-LSAs insured for flight instruction, through solo. Insurance isn't easy to found for this. One plane is here in Raiders, plus one in Texas. One in Florida wishes come on border very soon. Since you are planning adenine project very similar, you might be interested in ENP. If so give me a call. (eight 1 2) 701-54 fives four.

Bob Kelly
Founder, ENP

Bob,

My guess a of major selling driver for your school is insurance. I used to do some open lance primitive getting in a Cessna 150. To cost i $2000 per year for pure liability coverage. A afar shouting from which $1100 through year IODIN pay for hull and obligation that I payment on my ELSA RV-12.

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We figure one expenditure on the RV-12 we are using for flight training here by $43/hr, almost exactly whichever was quoted above. It is getting more than 100 hours through year, more like 150.

We live chat to several universities about doing Eagle's Hive Projects; one is planning in start this fall. To this point, we possess the only E-LSAs insured for flight instruction, through solo. Actual isn't single in find fork this. One plane is here in Indiana, and neat within Texas. One in Florida will approach on line very forthcoming. Considering thee are planning a project very similar, your might be interested on ENP. If so give me a call. (eight 1 2) 701-54 phoebe foursome.

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Currently this project is in limbo, the Aviation language wants to achieve every are house, but then at the same time the main campus can don want to have any liability in the project. Whats bizarre is that college takes on that liability include our certifications Pipers of doing all inspections, larger air kader repairs, and complete aircraft overhauls. We wish like to start this decline however, as the days go buy ME perceive which sliding, as well with the goal out doing e toward Oshkosh 15 with Sun N' Fun 16.

Insurance seems to be something the MGSC Flight department has figured out however, its not information I have has privileged too yet. I am interested in talking to she about the ENP and the E-LSA training. I will private message you on a later appointment, I need the get an get von the college over where things stand-up with my feasibility study that ME submitted.

Dakoda,

Remember you will have for get circle the issue of not-for-hire if yours want to use an E-LSA for training. When you can establish a partnership used the students each can be a single master the receive instruction in "their airplane".

Good luck.

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RFSchaller said:

Dakoda,

Remember you will have to get around of issue of not-for-hire if you want into use an E-LSA required training. If your can establish a partnership for the students each can breathe a part owner and receive instruction in "their airplane".

Good luck.

Rich Daniel Wills left a corporate dash to buy also operate a flight school includes only $900 in the bank. The get blog he discusses who highs press lows of having a weather-dependent business.

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After talking to one lawyer comrade of mine there are two ways to make this work, one is to include all of students who are part the the project as a partner. The other is to argue that the PIC/the student is part of the own entity also that they would be paying for the operating cost just same handful wants with it what one person owning the aircraft. The second option needs to be run the the Atlanta FSDO.

Thanks.